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Rene
I have twin boys that turning 1 in a couple of weeks. They spend a significant amount of time in 3 different cars (mine, my husbands, and grandparents...they babysit). Which means that we need SIX car seats. At their cheapest they are $45. Multiply that by six and it gets expensive. Is anyone aware of any company that gives discounts to parents of multiples or know of any company that sells them cheaper? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Whoa! Well, you are right on wanting seats for each vehicle they are in frequently. The more often a car seat is uninstalled/reinstalled, the more likely it will be installed incorrectly as we rush to get it in and out. So it is a need. Babies R Us has a multiples discount, but you do have to buy them all at the same time. From their website: "BABIES "R" US MULTIPLE BIRTH DISCOUNT
Does Babies "R" Us offer a multiple birth discount? We are pleased to inform you of our multiple birth discount. Babies "R" Us defines a multiple birth as parents with two or more babies the same age. We offer our customers 10% off two or more of the same items purchased in the same order (e.g. two cribs, two bedding sets, two strollers, etc.). The discount can not be combined with any other offers, including sale priced items, and applies to the following categories only: furniture, bedding sets and baby gear, including car seats, strollers, travel yards, highchairs, swings, gates, exersaucers/walkers and backpack/carriers. Double strollers and matching infant car seats are also eligible for the multiple birth discount. This offer is not available on any special purchase items. Corporate sales do not qualify for the multiple birth discount. "
The cheapest seat you are referring to is the Cosco Scenera, and its actually not a bad seat. Not hard to install, easy to use, and rear faces to 35lbs (more on why that's so great later!) The bad part is, you get what you pay for. It only forward faces to 40lbs and the average child will outgrow it at 2-3 years old which means at that time you'll be out shopping for 2 new harnessed seats again, b/c 2-3 year olds can not be put in booster seats. If you're ok with that, I'd suggest getting a couple of these for some of the cars. They'd last long enough that you can work towards saving for the harnessed seats they're going to need when they outgrow them.
As for the least expensive in convertible seats that you will get your money's worth out of and really like, here's the pick of the litter:
When shopping Remember these rules:
1)the BEST seat is the one that fits your child, fits your car, and will be used correctly 100% of the time. (This is why convenience features DO make a difference and ARE worth the money! If its easy to use, you're more likely to use it correctly.
2)children need to stay rear facing as long as possible.
Turning kids forward at 20lbs/1year is an outdated practice that could cost you your child's life!
A)A forward-facing child under 2 years old is 5 times more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a crash than a rear-facing child of the same age.
B)A child's vertabrae do not fully fuse until 3-6 years old, before then, she is at great risk for internal decapitation. The spinal column can stretch up to 2 inches in a crash BUT the spinal cord can only stretch up to 1/4 inch before it snaps and baby is gone.
C)Current research suggests that children under the age of two years are 75 percent less likely to die or be seriously injured when they are riding rear facing.
D)In a recent article from Injury Prevention, it was found that the odds of severe injury to forward facing children age 12-23 months old was 5.32 times higher than a rear facing child. (Car Safety Seats For Children: Rear Facing For Best Protection; Injury Prevention 2007; 13:398-402.)
3)Once you do turn them forward facing, they need to stay in a 5 point harness as long as possible. 4 years/40lbs is the minimum for riding in a booster, and most 4 year olds have no business using one yet. If they can't sit upright for an entire trip, they need the harness of a car seat still. And, even if they do sit properly, a 5 point harness is safer, so you want to keep them in one as long as possible. This is important to consider b/c most car seats only forward face to 40lbs. My son just turned 3, and is in the 95th% for height and weight - 40" tall and weighs 41lbs. He outgrew the 40lbs seats shortly after his 2nd birthday. It was a total waste of money. He now has a Britax Marathon, which goes to 65lbs, and will be able to fit it for some time yet. If I'd have bought it when he was born, I could have had one car seat this whole time instead of the 3 I wasted money on. They are more expensive for many reasons, this is one.
So...knowing all that, here's some about specific seats. Please don't get a Graco Comfort Sport. Car seat techs call it the 'crappysport'. LOL Its a crappy seat that won't last your child very long b/c it has a really short shell. The straps twist all the time, and if they're twisted they won't support your child in a wreck properly. They're hard to install. There's nothing good about these seats except perhaps they're cheap sometimes. Ditto the Safety1st 3-in-1/Cosco Alpha Omega/Eddie Bauer 3-in1 seats. These are all the same company - same seat, just different covers. They stink. Hard to install, b/c of narrow belt paths. Ever tried to wash a skinny cup by hand? Now imagine that skinny cup with pointy edges. That's what putting your hand through these to install them is like. AND they have too short a shell to really go to 40lbs. And that's another misleading thing the box says - 5-100lbs. What the box fails to mention (you don't find out until reading the manual!) is that the harness only goes to 40lbs, NOT 100lbs! After 40lbs it must be used as a booster.And they do not make good boosters. Also, most kids have to use boosters until they're at least 8 years old. Car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture, so no matter what they say it is NOT the last seat you'll ever need to buy.
The Britax Marathon/Boulevard/Decathalon (These 3 are the same seat, just different variances of luxury additions, with the Marathon being the cheapest base model) can be found for regular price of $269, and on sale at Albee Baby online for $209-$219. The Marathon a wide open easy to route belt path, which makes using it correctly a lot easier, as do the built in lockoffs, which mean you never again have to use a locking clip. I can get it into 4 different vehicles in under 2 minutes. Because of the way the base is made, it fits in most cars. And, it is worth the money, b/c it lasts usually twice as long as most other car seats (all car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture) lasting a baby till they are 5-6 years old, where most at Walmart will only last till 2-4 years old. Rear faces to 33lbs, then forward to 65lbs. and top slots 17inches tall, lasts most kids to ages 5-6 years old. If you're really wanting these, Britax does 2 annual sales where you can get them for great prices: Sept/Oct and Jan/Feb. But check around, often you can find seats with discontinued covers at albeebaby or amazon for great prices.
The Evenflo Triumph Advance (not the original Triumph, make sure it says Advance) is a great seat. $150 version at Babies R Us has padding similar to Britax seats, top slots of 17", harnesses to 35lbs rear facing, and 50lbs forward facing. $120 Walmart version just has little less plush padding. Wide open belt path, easy to install, though it doesn't have built in lockoffs. The harness adjusts at the front of the car seat, you don't have to take the car seat out of the car just to raise/lower the straps. It has infinite harness adjustment so the harness always fits perfectly until its outgrown. No more tugging straps to tighten them either. You tighten and loosen the harness using knobs on the side of the seat. As a major bonus, it can be used in a recline position even in forward facing mode. Awesome for kids who still sleep in the car. I LOVE THIS SEAT! LOL My son, who is too big for every other car seat at Walmart has the same amount of room in this as the Britax Marathon. These were sale priced a few weeks ago at Walmart, don't know if they still are.
The Compass Tue Fit, also sold as The First Years True Fit, is a great choice, too. Here's a thread talking all about it: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37221&highlight=truefit Has 16.5 inch top harness slots, half inch shorter than the Britax Marathon and Evenflo Triumph Advance. Rear faces to 35lbs, forward faces to 65lbs, has built-in lockoffs, and you never have to rethread the harness to change harness height. The headrest is removable to fit better in smaller cars. $179 for the one cover Walmart offers it in, check Babies R Us and other stores for different covers at a little more expensive price.
If you have a Burlington Coat Factory near you, it would be worth making a visit to see if they have any Fisher Price Safe Voyage Deluxe car seats. The Fisher Price Safe Voyage Deluxe Convertible seat is great, it is made by Britax, without all the frills. It's the same shell as a Marathon, but for less than half the price. $130 at Albee Baby online with free shipping, or at their eBay name, babysurplus. Rear faces to 33lbs, forward to 55lbs. Easy to use, fits in most cars. A small word of warning about these seats: they are now officially not making them anymore, so the date of manufacture is getting older and older, with many being delivered that are 6+ months old already. Since car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture, this could make a difference to you, especially since its possible your child could fit in the seat for the next 5-6 years. But since they're marked down to $30, its an awesome deal!
It may take some juggling of seats for a little while to get really good prices on seats you actually want.
Whoa! Well, you are right on wanting seats for each vehicle they are in frequently. The more often a car seat is uninstalled/reinstalled, the more likely it will be installed incorrectly as we rush to get it in and out. So it is a need. Babies R Us has a multiples discount, but you do have to buy them all at the same time. From their website: "BABIES "R" US MULTIPLE BIRTH DISCOUNT
Does Babies "R" Us offer a multiple birth discount? We are pleased to inform you of our multiple birth discount. Babies "R" Us defines a multiple birth as parents with two or more babies the same age. We offer our customers 10% off two or more of the same items purchased in the same order (e.g. two cribs, two bedding sets, two strollers, etc.). The discount can not be combined with any other offers, including sale priced items, and applies to the following categories only: furniture, bedding sets and baby gear, including car seats, strollers, travel yards, highchairs, swings, gates, exersaucers/walkers and backpack/carriers. Double strollers and matching infant car seats are also eligible for the multiple birth discount. This offer is not available on any special purchase items. Corporate sales do not qualify for the multiple birth discount. "
The cheapest seat you are referring to is the Cosco Scenera, and its actually not a bad seat. Not hard to install, easy to use, and rear faces to 35lbs (more on why that's so great later!) The bad part is, you get what you pay for. It only forward faces to 40lbs and the average child will outgrow it at 2-3 years old which means at that time you'll be out shopping for 2 new harnessed seats again, b/c 2-3 year olds can not be put in booster seats. If you're ok with that, I'd suggest getting a couple of these for some of the cars. They'd last long enough that you can work towards saving for the harnessed seats they're going to need when they outgrow them.
As for the least expensive in convertible seats that you will get your money's worth out of and really like, here's the pick of the litter:
When shopping Remember these rules:
1)the BEST seat is the one that fits your child, fits your car, and will be used correctly 100% of the time. (This is why convenience features DO make a difference and ARE worth the money! If its easy to use, you're more likely to use it correctly.
2)children need to stay rear facing as long as possible.
Turning kids forward at 20lbs/1year is an outdated practice that could cost you your child's life!
A)A forward-facing child under 2 years old is 5 times more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a crash than a rear-facing child of the same age.
B)A child's vertabrae do not fully fuse until 3-6 years old, before then, she is at great risk for internal decapitation. The spinal column can stretch up to 2 inches in a crash BUT the spinal cord can only stretch up to 1/4 inch before it snaps and baby is gone.
C)Current research suggests that children under the age of two years are 75 percent less likely to die or be seriously injured when they are riding rear facing.
D)In a recent article from Injury Prevention, it was found that the odds of severe injury to forward facing children age 12-23 months old was 5.32 times higher than a rear facing child. (Car Safety Seats For Children: Rear Facing For Best Protection; Injury Prevention 2007; 13:398-402.)
3)Once you do turn them forward facing, they need to stay in a 5 point harness as long as possible. 4 years/40lbs is the minimum for riding in a booster, and most 4 year olds have no business using one yet. If they can't sit upright for an entire trip, they need the harness of a car seat still. And, even if they do sit properly, a 5 point harness is safer, so you want to keep them in one as long as possible. This is important to consider b/c most car seats only forward face to 40lbs. My son just turned 3, and is in the 95th% for height and weight - 40" tall and weighs 41lbs. He outgrew the 40lbs seats shortly after his 2nd birthday. It was a total waste of money. He now has a Britax Marathon, which goes to 65lbs, and will be able to fit it for some time yet. If I'd have bought it when he was born, I could have had one car seat this whole time instead of the 3 I wasted money on. They are more expensive for many reasons, this is one.
So...knowing all that, here's some about specific seats. Please don't get a Graco Comfort Sport. Car seat techs call it the 'crappysport'. LOL Its a crappy seat that won't last your child very long b/c it has a really short shell. The straps twist all the time, and if they're twisted they won't support your child in a wreck properly. They're hard to install. There's nothing good about these seats except perhaps they're cheap sometimes. Ditto the Safety1st 3-in-1/Cosco Alpha Omega/Eddie Bauer 3-in1 seats. These are all the same company - same seat, just different covers. They stink. Hard to install, b/c of narrow belt paths. Ever tried to wash a skinny cup by hand? Now imagine that skinny cup with pointy edges. That's what putting your hand through these to install them is like. AND they have too short a shell to really go to 40lbs. And that's another misleading thing the box says - 5-100lbs. What the box fails to mention (you don't find out until reading the manual!) is that the harness only goes to 40lbs, NOT 100lbs! After 40lbs it must be used as a booster.And they do not make good boosters. Also, most kids have to use boosters until they're at least 8 years old. Car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture, so no matter what they say it is NOT the last seat you'll ever need to buy.
The Britax Marathon/Boulevard/Decathalon (These 3 are the same seat, just different variances of luxury additions, with the Marathon being the cheapest base model) can be found for regular price of $269, and on sale at Albee Baby online for $209-$219. The Marathon a wide open easy to route belt path, which makes using it correctly a lot easier, as do the built in lockoffs, which mean you never again have to use a locking clip. I can get it into 4 different vehicles in under 2 minutes. Because of the way the base is made, it fits in most cars. And, it is worth the money, b/c it lasts usually twice as long as most other car seats (all car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture) lasting a baby till they are 5-6 years old, where most at Walmart will only last till 2-4 years old. Rear faces to 33lbs, then forward to 65lbs. and top slots 17inches tall, lasts most kids to ages 5-6 years old. If you're really wanting these, Britax does 2 annual sales where you can get them for great prices: Sept/Oct and Jan/Feb. But check around, often you can find seats with discontinued covers at albeebaby or amazon for great prices.
The Evenflo Triumph Advance (not the original Triumph, make sure it says Advance) is a great seat. $150 version at Babies R Us has padding similar to Britax seats, top slots of 17", harnesses to 35lbs rear facing, and 50lbs forward facing. $120 Walmart version just has little less plush padding. Wide open belt path, easy to install, though it doesn't have built in lockoffs. The harness adjusts at the front of the car seat, you don't have to take the car seat out of the car just to raise/lower the straps. It has infinite harness adjustment so the harness always fits perfectly until its outgrown. No more tugging straps to tighten them either. You tighten and loosen the harness using knobs on the side of the seat. As a major bonus, it can be used in a recline position even in forward facing mode. Awesome for kids who still sleep in the car. I LOVE THIS SEAT! LOL My son, who is too big for every other car seat at Walmart has the same amount of room in this as the Britax Marathon. These were sale priced a few weeks ago at Walmart, don't know if they still are.
The Compass Tue Fit, also sold as The First Years True Fit, is a great choice, too. Here's a thread talking all about it: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37221&highlight=truefit Has 16.5 inch top harness slots, half inch shorter than the Britax Marathon and Evenflo Triumph Advance. Rear faces to 35lbs, forward faces to 65lbs, has built-in lockoffs, and you never have to rethread the harness to change harness height. The headrest is removable to fit better in smaller cars. $179 for the one cover Walmart offers it in, check Babies R Us and other stores for different covers at a little more expensive price.
If you have a Burlington Coat Factory near you, it would be worth making a visit to see if they have any Fisher Price Safe Voyage Deluxe car seats. The Fisher Price Safe Voyage Deluxe Convertible seat is great, it is made by Britax, without all the frills. It's the same shell as a Marathon, but for less than half the price. $130 at Albee Baby online with free shipping, or at their eBay name, babysurplus. Rear faces to 33lbs, forward to 55lbs. Easy to use, fits in most cars. A small word of warning about these seats: they are now officially not making them anymore, so the date of manufacture is getting older and older, with many being delivered that are 6+ months old already. Since car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture, this could make a difference to you, especially since its possible your child could fit in the seat for the next 5-6 years. But since they're marked down to $30, its an awesome deal!
It may take some juggling of seats for a little while to get really good prices on seats you actually want.
How do I help my daughter to become more independent so I can reclaim the joy of motherhood?
Ceylon
My ten month old daughter screams hysterically every time I leave the room. Which means I donât do ANYTHING all day but hold her, feed her, and play with her. My husband is a wonderful father and takes over with her when he gets home from work, which is when I start cooking and cleaning until it is time to go to bed. I have no time for me.
She will often play quietly beside me for a few minutes while Iâm on the computer or doing laundry, but if I am doing chores that require me to move from one room to the other, I have to carry her around in a sling, which is like being pregnant with a 30 pound baby and doubles the time it takes to do anything.
My husband and I waited to have a baby until if finished graduate school and we were financially stable enough for me to be a fulltime stay at home mom. I knew raising a child would be challenging, life-altering, and require sacrifice. As it turns out for me, being a stay at home mom has meant absolute selflessness.
The chronic back pain from holding her, picking her up and toting her around all day keeps me from getting good sleep. I havenât read one book since she was born; I rarely have time to read the news or exercise (outside of taking her on walks). I donât feel like I have anyone to talk to about thisâthe times Iâve tried to discuss it with my mother, she has made me feel guilty, the last time she snarled that I better get my tubes tied âASAPâ so I am not âburdened with the horror of another child.â
When I bring it up with my husband, he doesnât seem to understand and often suggests just letting her cry when I need to get something done. Each day, I put her in her crib or playpen for an hour while I shower, dress, and wolf down a microwave lunch. She spends this time screaming so hysterically that she can barely breath. Needless to say, every lunch and breakfast I have is incredibly stressful.
My baby is an intelligent, precious person, a delightful social butterfly who engages strangers in the park and at restaurants. I know this is not her fault. I LOVE her and feel grateful to have her and the financial stability to devote so much attention to her. Yet I donât want to become resentful. Nor do I want her to sense the fact that around 3 pm each day Iâm wishing I were doing anything else besides reading her a book and praying she takes a nap. My daily life feels like a bad dream where it takes me eight hours to load the dishwasher.
How do I help myself and my family?
Answer
My daughter is the same way! I have twins...and I totally understand that you need to vent a little!
Get a little backpack carrier and stick her in it. Wear her around and you can get stuff done and she will realize she would rather be down to play.
Another thing that has helped is babyproofing EVERYTHING. This way when you shower, you can bring her in the bathroom with her. Maybe give her a bottom drawer of her own so you can shower and she can play with toys in her drawer.
I also can now do laundry (in the garage) and the twins just roam around the house playing, because everything is totally safe. Seriously, it is going to help you a lot!
Whenever you can, let her "help" you. If you need to cook, stick her in front of a pot with a wooden spoon and toss some blocks or something in the pot. Ask her to help make the "soup" and ask her to stir the pot while you stir the real food.
When folding laundry, give her a pile of something colorful, like washcloths, to "fold" or sort or whatever.
My daughter is the same way! I have twins...and I totally understand that you need to vent a little!
Get a little backpack carrier and stick her in it. Wear her around and you can get stuff done and she will realize she would rather be down to play.
Another thing that has helped is babyproofing EVERYTHING. This way when you shower, you can bring her in the bathroom with her. Maybe give her a bottom drawer of her own so you can shower and she can play with toys in her drawer.
I also can now do laundry (in the garage) and the twins just roam around the house playing, because everything is totally safe. Seriously, it is going to help you a lot!
Whenever you can, let her "help" you. If you need to cook, stick her in front of a pot with a wooden spoon and toss some blocks or something in the pot. Ask her to help make the "soup" and ask her to stir the pot while you stir the real food.
When folding laundry, give her a pile of something colorful, like washcloths, to "fold" or sort or whatever.
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