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How did you handle having to fly on your own with them and luggage? If you had to connect to another flight, what did you do while you waited?
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I've been flying with my three children for 10 years, since each was 4 months old. They are close in age, just over two years apart and we fly between Europe and California about twice a year, plus other flights.
Don't count on getting help from the airlines. As a Flight Attendant, I often tried to get help for parents, especially on their own, with multiple children and the request was always refused. It can't hurt to ask because I hear some airlines are better about this than others (including both of my employers). Also, for your departure city, find out if you can bring someone with you on a "gate pass". This means that one adult will be allowed to accompany you to the gate, including going through security. I have never been able to do this but again, asking can't hurt!
Absolutely, without a doubt, you need a *good* baby carrier. By definition, this should go to age 2 or 3. Fiddly front packs like the Bjorn wont cut it. I made sure the carrier could be used for both my younger two children. I used a ring sling but a wrap, pouch or front/back carrier like an Ergo or Becco can be used if your younger one can hold his head up.
I only took one stroller and one car seat. I always had a seat for each child. I would have gone crazy if I had had a child on my lap for so long. Also, as an ex-Flight Attendant, I knew this was safer. Air travel itself is safe so that's why babies are allowed in laps but for a few flights, I was pregnant so there wasn't really much of a lap anyway!
Bring more diapers than you think you'll need, about 1/3 more than your children usually use. Put in a plastic bag (about 10 in a bunch) and bind with rubber bands. This saves space in your carry-on.
Don't bring a purse. Take a tiny bag with essentials that goes around your neck (so you can throw it on while folding, opening the stroller, etc. Then instead of a diaper bag, take a backpack (or a diaper bag designed like back pack). You can actually take two if you can't get everything in one, a diaper bag that goes on the stroller and the back pack. I have a largish one. If placed on the floor, it goes up to my knee but doesn't have wheels. I sometimes had to take two, like when I flew with three in diapers once.
To check-in, I everything, including the carry-on's, stroller, car seat and luggage on the cart and pushed it with the older one(s) walking and the youngest in the baby carrier. Try to get some help at your departure airport, even if that person wont be issued a gate-pass. Once I "get rid" of the bags by checking them, then I'm okay. Remember to NOT check in any car seats as luggage. Gate-checking is better if you can't use your seat(s) on board. I also would arrange at least one or two car seats at my destination.
Arriving, I did the same. The baby went in the baby carrier and the older one either walked or sat in the stroller. Once we were at baggage claim, I would make the children wait well away from the bags to avoid injury. Often, my children would find some playmates at this point. If your older one especially finds a friend, ask the parents to keep an eye on him/them for you while you get your bags.
Don't be in a huge hurry and don't wait up front. Stay with your children and when you see a bag, then go up to the belt. Often, someone would help me. Sometimes I could see the bags coming out and then I'd know if I had to run up and get one.
Yes, you can be more liberal about accepting help inside the "secure" area of the airport. Once you're out of customs, this is a public area so be more on guard. After security at your departure point is when it starts. The only people you will meet are other passengers and employees and quite frankly, they couldn't go far with your kids anyway, even if they had evil intentions!
I actually found that we never really sat around between flights. By the time I got off the plane, got through immigration and sometimes customs, found my connecting gate, etc. even a 3 hour layover dissapated. They always want to stop and look at something, have to have a diaper change, etc. There are some children's play areas at some airports and we have done that but often they're too far away to be of much use. If you are a member of a frequent flyer club, you probably can bring your children to the lounge to wait but some are very quiet and child un-friendly.
Sometimes it just works better to find a restaurant and sit and rest. Look up your connection city's airport on the net and find out if there are any children's play areas, where they are and any restaurants, like McDonald's, which might have one too.
For more information, nine years ago I wrote an article on this subject. It's based on both my personal and professional experience of flying with children. It goes more into detail on packing and transporting car seats. It's totally non-commercial and other parents from around the world have contributed;
http://flyingwithchildren1.blogspot.com
Good luck! I survived and so will you!!
I've been flying with my three children for 10 years, since each was 4 months old. They are close in age, just over two years apart and we fly between Europe and California about twice a year, plus other flights.
Don't count on getting help from the airlines. As a Flight Attendant, I often tried to get help for parents, especially on their own, with multiple children and the request was always refused. It can't hurt to ask because I hear some airlines are better about this than others (including both of my employers). Also, for your departure city, find out if you can bring someone with you on a "gate pass". This means that one adult will be allowed to accompany you to the gate, including going through security. I have never been able to do this but again, asking can't hurt!
Absolutely, without a doubt, you need a *good* baby carrier. By definition, this should go to age 2 or 3. Fiddly front packs like the Bjorn wont cut it. I made sure the carrier could be used for both my younger two children. I used a ring sling but a wrap, pouch or front/back carrier like an Ergo or Becco can be used if your younger one can hold his head up.
I only took one stroller and one car seat. I always had a seat for each child. I would have gone crazy if I had had a child on my lap for so long. Also, as an ex-Flight Attendant, I knew this was safer. Air travel itself is safe so that's why babies are allowed in laps but for a few flights, I was pregnant so there wasn't really much of a lap anyway!
Bring more diapers than you think you'll need, about 1/3 more than your children usually use. Put in a plastic bag (about 10 in a bunch) and bind with rubber bands. This saves space in your carry-on.
Don't bring a purse. Take a tiny bag with essentials that goes around your neck (so you can throw it on while folding, opening the stroller, etc. Then instead of a diaper bag, take a backpack (or a diaper bag designed like back pack). You can actually take two if you can't get everything in one, a diaper bag that goes on the stroller and the back pack. I have a largish one. If placed on the floor, it goes up to my knee but doesn't have wheels. I sometimes had to take two, like when I flew with three in diapers once.
To check-in, I everything, including the carry-on's, stroller, car seat and luggage on the cart and pushed it with the older one(s) walking and the youngest in the baby carrier. Try to get some help at your departure airport, even if that person wont be issued a gate-pass. Once I "get rid" of the bags by checking them, then I'm okay. Remember to NOT check in any car seats as luggage. Gate-checking is better if you can't use your seat(s) on board. I also would arrange at least one or two car seats at my destination.
Arriving, I did the same. The baby went in the baby carrier and the older one either walked or sat in the stroller. Once we were at baggage claim, I would make the children wait well away from the bags to avoid injury. Often, my children would find some playmates at this point. If your older one especially finds a friend, ask the parents to keep an eye on him/them for you while you get your bags.
Don't be in a huge hurry and don't wait up front. Stay with your children and when you see a bag, then go up to the belt. Often, someone would help me. Sometimes I could see the bags coming out and then I'd know if I had to run up and get one.
Yes, you can be more liberal about accepting help inside the "secure" area of the airport. Once you're out of customs, this is a public area so be more on guard. After security at your departure point is when it starts. The only people you will meet are other passengers and employees and quite frankly, they couldn't go far with your kids anyway, even if they had evil intentions!
I actually found that we never really sat around between flights. By the time I got off the plane, got through immigration and sometimes customs, found my connecting gate, etc. even a 3 hour layover dissapated. They always want to stop and look at something, have to have a diaper change, etc. There are some children's play areas at some airports and we have done that but often they're too far away to be of much use. If you are a member of a frequent flyer club, you probably can bring your children to the lounge to wait but some are very quiet and child un-friendly.
Sometimes it just works better to find a restaurant and sit and rest. Look up your connection city's airport on the net and find out if there are any children's play areas, where they are and any restaurants, like McDonald's, which might have one too.
For more information, nine years ago I wrote an article on this subject. It's based on both my personal and professional experience of flying with children. It goes more into detail on packing and transporting car seats. It's totally non-commercial and other parents from around the world have contributed;
http://flyingwithchildren1.blogspot.com
Good luck! I survived and so will you!!
How can I take a baby to the Grand Canyon?
Hopie
i was just wondering if strollers were allowed in the grand canyon or do we have to hold him the whole time?
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Yes, strollers are allowed in Grand Canyon National Park. We took our daughter to the Grand Canyon when she was 23 months old and took a collapsible stroller with us. The stroller was compact and lightweight with umbrella style handles. The reason for the compact stroller is so it could be easily carried onto the park shuttle buses.
The rim trial between Mather Point and Grand Canyon Village (about 2 miles) is paved and you can easily push a stroller on it. To get to scenic viewpoints on the West Rim you'll have to use the park shuttle. You'll probably want to carry your child to get from the shuttle stop to the viewpoints as they are short walks and not paved. To see the scenic viewpoints on the East Rim you'll have to use your car or take a commercial tour bus (check for tours at Bright Angel Lodge). Again, you'll want to carry your child to the viewpoints except at Desert View which is much more spread out with paved walkways.
I also used a backpack carrier which works great for toddlers. Front carriers are available for infants. If you have a toddler and allow him to walk along parts of the trail, please keep him on a very short leash. I don't mean that literally but you should be within arm's reach. The viewpoints are fenced but the trails are not. A 4-year old fell to her death near Mather Point last October. I would think twice before taking an infant or very young child into the canyon, especially during the summer months when the sun and dehydration can be major problems. It would probably be ok to walk down the Bright Angel trail for a few hundred yards but you can't use a stroller and you may encounter mules on the trail.
Be sure you carry everything you need for your child (like baby food for an infant, disposable diapers, etc.) because you may not find these items at the park stores. In a pinch you can try the stores in Tusayan just outside the south entrance. Have fun.
Yes, strollers are allowed in Grand Canyon National Park. We took our daughter to the Grand Canyon when she was 23 months old and took a collapsible stroller with us. The stroller was compact and lightweight with umbrella style handles. The reason for the compact stroller is so it could be easily carried onto the park shuttle buses.
The rim trial between Mather Point and Grand Canyon Village (about 2 miles) is paved and you can easily push a stroller on it. To get to scenic viewpoints on the West Rim you'll have to use the park shuttle. You'll probably want to carry your child to get from the shuttle stop to the viewpoints as they are short walks and not paved. To see the scenic viewpoints on the East Rim you'll have to use your car or take a commercial tour bus (check for tours at Bright Angel Lodge). Again, you'll want to carry your child to the viewpoints except at Desert View which is much more spread out with paved walkways.
I also used a backpack carrier which works great for toddlers. Front carriers are available for infants. If you have a toddler and allow him to walk along parts of the trail, please keep him on a very short leash. I don't mean that literally but you should be within arm's reach. The viewpoints are fenced but the trails are not. A 4-year old fell to her death near Mather Point last October. I would think twice before taking an infant or very young child into the canyon, especially during the summer months when the sun and dehydration can be major problems. It would probably be ok to walk down the Bright Angel trail for a few hundred yards but you can't use a stroller and you may encounter mules on the trail.
Be sure you carry everything you need for your child (like baby food for an infant, disposable diapers, etc.) because you may not find these items at the park stores. In a pinch you can try the stores in Tusayan just outside the south entrance. Have fun.
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